Homosexuality among male Elementary Teachers? - Page 2

10-19-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alyallen

It's not "manly" to be nurturing because to be a man means having an inability to be nurturing because that's what the womenfolk do. Yeah...

....

I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself.

With me, it has nothing to do with how I am perceived. By now you probably know I'm not particularly influenced by what "people" think.

I love small children. But... I love them in small and manageable doses.

After about 30 minutes. say an hour tops of listening to inane baby/todder, young child talk I get a massive headache and say - ok, time to go back to your Mommy.

this has happened with my nephew, my godson, and basically all young children.

So personally, it's not that I'd be scared of stereotypes, etc by working with young children, it's merely that I can NOT. I don't have what it takes, whether it's nurturing or the patience or whatever you want to call it.

I don't have it. After about an hour, I'd wring their little necks.

Black Dynamite · 10-19-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bogey666

I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself.

With me, it has nothing to do with how I am perceived. By now you probably know I'm not particularly influenced by what "people" think.

I love small children. But... I love them in small and manageable doses.

After about 30 minutes. say an hour tops of listening to inane baby/todder, young child talk I get a massive headache and say - ok, time to go back to your Mommy.

this has happened with my nephew, my godson, and basically all young children.

So personally, it's not that I'd be scared of stereotypes, etc by working with young children, it's merely that I can NOT. I don't have what it takes, whether it's nurturing or the patience or whatever you want to call it.

I don't have it. After about an hour, I'd wring their little necks.

Fair enough. I'm not particularly fond of young children either (which makes me an unfeeling and heartless woman [which I am

]). Sadly the leap of nurturing man --> sensitive ---> must be gay is taken by many people which is unfair.

Yu_Bum_suk · 10-19-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bogey666

I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself.

With me, it has nothing to do with how I am perceived. By now you probably know I'm not particularly influenced by what "people" think.

I love small children. But... I love them in small and manageable doses.

After about 30 minutes. say an hour tops of listening to inane baby/todder, young child talk I get a massive headache and say - ok, time to go back to your Mommy.

this has happened with my nephew, my godson, and basically all young children.

So personally, it's not that I'd be scared of stereotypes, etc by working with young children, it's merely that I can NOT. I don't have what it takes, whether it's nurturing or the patience or whatever you want to call it.

I don't have it. After about an hour, I'd wring their little necks.

I'm very much the same way. For some reason I can easily block out adolescent drivel but little children just drive me crazy after a while.

Delirium's Brother · 10-19-2009, 07:34 PM

First seven grades of Catholic elementary school: one male teacher (probably gay) for a term before transferring to a different school, one PE teacher (probably not) for the year at the new school; lot's of undercover nuns (who knows). It was the late 60s and early 70s.
Public middle school: lot's of male teachers (probably not gay).
High school: same as middle school. It was the early 80s.

Whether true or not, a lot of prospective male teachers probably think that elementary teaching includes of lot of babysitting-like tasks. That probably keeps them away--perhaps they feel that the perceived status is lower.

I teach ESL to elementary school and middle school kids. But they arrive in waves--class after class. I don't have to follow any one class around all day like their homeroom teachers do. I don't think that would be much fun. In the school I'm at, the homeroom teachers follow their classes around to keep discipline. The even sometimes follow their classes when they are studying with Chinese teachers.

peace,

Yu_Bum_suk · 10-19-2009, 07:50 PM

This thread got me thinking about my third-grade elementary school teacher and whether she might have been a lesbian. She taught us to call her Ms _______ at a time when Ms wasn't that common and actually was supposed to make a statement. I don't remember anything particular about her mannerisms but I always got the iimpression my mum really didn't like her and was always just pretending to be polite with her. My mum really hates lesbians, even more than male homos, it seems. Oh well, if she was it just goes to show how little difference a teacher's sexual orientation makes.

Stormy · 10-19-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yu_Bum_suk

She taught us to call her Ms _______ at a time when Ms wasn't that common and actually was supposed to make a statement.

Yep, that's irrefutable proof of lesbianism alrighty. Nice catch.

donjuan7 · 10-19-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nomaster

I believe that my fifth grade teacher was my only male elementary teacher.

Me too.

Draz · 10-20-2009, 01:16 AM

I had enough male teachers in elementary school that it didn't occur to me to think it was weird for men to teach kids.

Heywood Jablowme · 10-20-2009, 01:42 AM

Only male teacher in elementary school I had was the principal, in grade 6, even then only for the morning classes. Afternoon classes were taught by my first wank fantasy. (no, not Gillian Anderson... I'm a bit older than that)

Middle school was nearly a complete opposite; almost all male teachers, except for the music, French and gym teachers.

10-20-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Draz

I had enough male teachers in elementary school that it didn't occur to me to think it was weird for men to teach kids.

It's not weird Drazzy, just for Bogey who I'm starting to think is just another ex-Daves Tarkaan sock!

dogshed · 10-20-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alyallen

Fair enough. I'm not particularly fond of young children either (which makes me an unfeeling and heartless woman [which I am

]). Sadly the leap of nurturing man --> sensitive ---> must be gay is taken by many people which is unfair.

I have a friend who doesn't like being around little kids except her own and now her grandchildren. I think it's different when it's your own.

Heywood Jablowme · 10-20-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dogshed

I think it's different when it's your own.

They all say that, but why take the chance?

Black Dynamite · 10-21-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dogshed

I have a friend who doesn't like being around little kids except her own and now her grandchildren. I think it's different when it's your own.

I don't want kids so I suppose I'll never know if the same applies to me or not...

camel · 10-21-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by keithinkorea

Where someone chooses to put, or not put their cock or other sexual organs has no bearing on their ability to educate their students.

Unless it's in little Min Song's stinker.

Mister Monkey Bear · 10-21-2009, 02:50 AM

My elementary school had several male teachers. They were all married and had children, well except for Mr. Bell, but then he was banging the wife of one of the other teachers so I'm pretty sure he wasn't a buttpirate.

Rael · 10-21-2009, 10:06 AM

I didn't have a male teacher until grade 7. He was also the first male teacher to teach at my elementary/middle school. Great teacher and still see him when I go back to my hometown.

The reason why I have no interest in teaching elementary school kids that I don't really relate with young children. They are too energetic and always want to play. I find fifth and sixth grade elementary to be okay but anything under than that is too young for me to teach.

HT · 10-21-2009, 07:34 PM

It is a well known fact that many supressed homosexual men marry Asian women.

Black Dynamite · 10-22-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HT

It is a well known fact that many supressed homosexual men marry Asian women.

Or Liza Minnelli...

Ewwwwwwww...

kermo · 10-22-2009, 12:37 AM

Oh Liza. I loved you on Arrested Development, but your foundation needs to match your freakin' neck.

Kale · 10-22-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogey666

I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself.

With me, it has nothing to do with how I am perceived. By now you probably know I'm not particularly influenced by what "people" think.

I love small children. But... I love them in small and manageable doses.

After about 30 minutes. say an hour tops of listening to inane baby/todder, young child talk I get a massive headache and say - ok, time to go back to your Mommy.

this has happened with my nephew, my godson, and basically all young children.

So personally, it's not that I'd be scared of stereotypes, etc by working with young children, it's merely that I can NOT. I don't have what it takes, whether it's nurturing or the patience or whatever you want to call it.

I don't have it. After about an hour, I'd wring their little necks.

Actually, I get that. I was an au pair for a while, and I didn't enjoy it particularly. I also worked for a few months in a kindy in China (doing just 2 hours each morning). The kids were adorable, and I really liked them in small doses, but I was bloody glad each lunchtime when those 2 hours were over.

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Originally Posted by Draz

I had enough male teachers in elementary school that it didn't occur to me to think it was weird for men to teach kids.

Indeed. I'm also concerned there won't be enough at the primary school(s) my young sons attend. If there isn't, I'll consider a couple of extra-curricular activities where the group leader is a guy.

10-19-2009, 07:34 PM	#24
Delirium's Brother Postmodern Hippie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Out in that field with Rumi waiting for you to join us! Posts: 1,125 Gender: Sexuality: Sock: Status:	First seven grades of Catholic elementary school: one male teacher (probably gay) for a term before transferring to a different school, one PE teacher (probably not) for the year at the new school; lot's of undercover nuns (who knows). It was the late 60s and early 70s. Public middle school: lot's of male teachers (probably not gay). High school: same as middle school. It was the early 80s. Whether true or not, a lot of prospective male teachers probably think that elementary teaching includes of lot of babysitting-like tasks. That probably keeps them away--perhaps they feel that the perceived status is lower. I teach ESL to elementary school and middle school kids. But they arrive in waves--class after class. I don't have to follow any one class around all day like their homeroom teachers do. I don't think that would be much fun. In the school I'm at, the homeroom teachers follow their classes around to keep discipline. The even sometimes follow their classes when they are studying with Chinese teachers. peace, __________________ "Were it not for the excess of your talking and the turmoil in your hearts, you would see what I see and hear what I hear!" ~ibn al-`Arabi

10-21-2009, 02:50 AM	#35
Mister Monkey Bear Is a terrible person and proud of it. :) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brisco County Posts: 8,425 Gender: Sexuality: Sock: Status: NFL Team: Total Awards: 7 Total Points: 0	My elementary school had several male teachers. They were all married and had children, well except for Mr. Bell, but then he was banging the wife of one of the other teachers so I'm pretty sure he wasn't a buttpirate. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'll be right back, after these messages.

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kermo Breaking Places Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,826 Total Awards: 8 Total Points: 0	Oh Liza. I loved you on Arrested Development, but your foundation needs to match your freakin' neck. __________________ __@..@ _(----) __ ( )--( ) _o0..0o Show me slowly what I only know the limits of. Dance me to the end of love.

10-19-2009, 07:50 PM	#25
Yu_Bum_suk "A wanker of the highest order" Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hicksville, Kyeongsangnamdo Posts: 2,877 Gender: Sexuality: Sock: Status: Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 0	This thread got me thinking about my third-grade elementary school teacher and whether she might have been a lesbian. She taught us to call her Ms _______ at a time when Ms wasn't that common and actually was supposed to make a statement. I don't remember anything particular about her mannerisms but I always got the iimpression my mum really didn't like her and was always just pretending to be polite with her. My mum really hates lesbians, even more than male homos, it seems. Oh well, if she was it just goes to show how little difference a teacher's sexual orientation makes.

10-20-2009, 01:16 AM	#28
Draz waking sleeping dreaming here I am Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,183 Gender: Sexuality: Sock: Total Awards: 3 Total Points: 0	I had enough male teachers in elementary school that it didn't occur to me to think it was weird for men to teach kids.

10-21-2009, 10:06 AM	#36
Rael There is trouble in the forest... Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Gyeongju Posts: 660 Gender: Sexuality: Sock: Status:	I didn't have a male teacher until grade 7. He was also the first male teacher to teach at my elementary/middle school. Great teacher and still see him when I go back to my hometown. The reason why I have no interest in teaching elementary school kids that I don't really relate with young children. They are too energetic and always want to play. I find fifth and sixth grade elementary to be okay but anything under than that is too young for me to teach.

10-21-2009, 07:34 PM	#37
HT Looking at things slightly differently now Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,420 Total Awards: 3 Total Points: 0	It is a well known fact that many supressed homosexual men marry Asian women.